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Commentary on Irish Political Economy by Michael Taft, researcher for SIPTU

The Fiscal Treaty Files: Cleaning Up the Debate

This was originally written for Progressive-Economy.ie

In Saturday’s Irish Times Stephen Collins wrote: 

 ‘Far from outlawing Keynesian economics, what the treaty seeks to do is to put an end to the kind of populist and inept fiscal policies that brought Ireland to the brink of ruin. The treaty on its own won’t achieve that objective but it should at least make it more difficult for politicians to behave irresponsibly in the future – and that can only be a good thing.’

Eoin O'Broin has already pointed out the many flaws in Collins’ piece. Here I just want to examine one point – namely, whether the Fiscal Compact would have either ended ‘populist and inept fiscal policies’ or ‘make it more difficult’ to pursue such policies; and to do so from the EU Commission’s perspective. 

Collins is no doubt referring to the structural deficit rule whereby, regardless of a Government’s General Deficit, it must maintain a structural deficit of -0.5 percent or less (-1 percent for countries with a general debt of 60 percent or less).  There is also an assumption that the Government’s fiscal policy during the speculative boom period, while in compliance with the Maastricht guidelines, was running structural deficits.  If so, this would have inevitably led to a mismatch between revenue and expenditure, as the former would have been bloated by the property bubble. 

Therefore, Collins assumes that had the Fiscal Treaty been in place during that period, it would have first, exposed this structural defect and, secondly, required the Government to repair it.

All of this is mistaken – at least according to the EU Commission (see Note at end of post).

Cleaning Up the Debate
According to the EU Commission, Irish Governments ran, on average, both general and structural surpluses, not deficits.   The above estimates come from the latest EU Commission forecasts – not the ones made prior to the recession.

Had the Fiscal Treaty been in place during that period, Ireland would have been allowed a structural deficit of -1 percent since we had a general debt of less than 60 percent of GDP.  But only twice during the 8-year period did Irish budgets run afoul of the structural deficit rule – and in 2003 it was quickly transformed into a surplus.

So according to the EU Commission Ireland’s fiscal performance during the period up to the recession was fiscally responsible.   Had the Fiscal Treaty been in situ it would have made no difference whatsoever to Irish budgetary policy.  Indeed, the ‘inept fiscal policies’ that brought us to ruin would have been vindicated by the Fiscal Treaty. 

This should, of course, lead to questions as to how one can trust this type of formulation since the EU Commission completely missed the speculative bubble in the Irish economy.  And it was a big bubble to miss.  Even years after the fact the EU Commission insists that Irish budgets were fundamentally sound and the economy was performing normally. 

Collins could have brought this easily accessible information to his readers’ attention and pointed out, whether one supports or opposes the Treaty, that these measurements are suspect, to put it mildly.  He could have also brought to his readers’ attention the Government’s own verdict on the EU Commission’s methodology for calculating the structural deficit – namely that it is ‘highly uncertain’ and ‘unrealistic’.  He didn’t.

Instead, he made an assertion that is wholly unsupported by the evidence. 

Unfortunately, we are likely to get a lot of that during the debate.  Therefore, it is imperative when such unfounded assertions are made in the debate, they are quickly challenged.

On this score, we can only hope that the statement that the Fiscal Treaty would have prevented or modified the budgetary policies prior to the recession is never repeated again.

NOTE:  2001 and 2002 structural deficit estimates come from the Spring 2010 EU Commission estimates as they were not available in the current estimate. 

 

In Saturday’s Irish Times Stephen Collins wrote: 

 ‘Far from outlawing Keynesian economics, what the treaty seeks to do is to put an end to the kind of populist and inept fiscal policies that brought Ireland to the brink of ruin. The treaty on its own won’t achieve that objective but it should at least make it more difficult for politicians to behave irresponsibly in the future – and that can only be a good thing.’

Eoin O'Broin has already pointed out the many flaws in Collins’ piece. Here I just want to examine one point – namely, whether the Fiscal Compact would have either ended ‘populist and inept fiscal policies’ or ‘make it more difficult’ to pursue such policies; and to do so from the EU Commission’s perspective. 

Collins is no doubt referring to the structural deficit rule whereby, regardless of a Government’s General Deficit, it must maintain a structural deficit of -0.5 percent or less (-1 percent for countries with a general debt of 60 percent or less).  There is also an assumption that the Government’s fiscal policy during the speculative boom period, while in compliance with the Maastricht guidelines, was running structural deficits.  If so, this would have inevitably led to a mismatch between revenue and expenditure, as the former would have been bloated by the property bubble. 

Therefore, Collins assumes that had the Fiscal Treaty been in place during that period, it would have first, exposed this structural defect and, secondly, required the Government to repair it.

All of this is mistaken – at least according to the EU Commission (see Note at end of post).

Ireland General and Structural Deficits 2000 – 2007

 

2000

2001

2002

2003

2004

2005

2006

2007

Average

General Deficit

4.7

0.9

-0.3

0.4

1.4

1.7

2.9

0.1

1.5

Structural Deficit

2.4

0.2

1.5

0.1

1.2

1.3

2.2

-1.4

0.5

 

According to the EU Commission, Irish Governments ran, on average, both general and structural surpluses, not deficits.   The above estimates come from the latest EU Commission forecasts – not the ones made prior to the recession.

Had the Fiscal Treaty been in place during that period, Ireland would have been allowed a structural deficit of -1 percent since we had a general debt of less than 60 percent of GDP.  But only twice during the 8-year period did Irish budgets run afoul of the structural deficit rule – and in 2003 it was quickly transformed into a surplus.

So according to the EU Commission Ireland’s fiscal performance during the period up to the recession was fiscally responsible.   Had the Fiscal Treaty been in situ it would have made no difference whatsoever to Irish budgetary policy.  Indeed, the ‘inept fiscal policies’ that brought us to ruin would have been vindicated by the Fiscal Treaty. 

This should, of course, lead to questions as to how one can trust this type of formulation since the EU Commission completely missed the speculative bubble in the Irish economy.  And it was a big bubble to miss.  Even years after the fact the EU Commission insists that Irish budgets were fundamentally sound and the economy was performing normally. 

Collins could have brought this easily accessible information to his readers’ attention and pointed out, whether one supports or opposes the Treaty, that these measurements are suspect, to put it mildly.  He could have also brought to his readers’ attention the Government’s own verdict on the EU Commission’s methodology for calculating the structural deficit – namely that it is ‘highly uncertain’ and ‘unrealistic’.  He didn’t.

Instead, he made an assertion that is wholly unsupported by the evidence. 

Unfortunately, we are likely to get a lot of that during the debate.  Therefore, it is imperative when such unfounded assertions are made in the debate, they are quickly challenged.

On this score, we can only hope that the statement that the Fiscal Treaty would have prevented or modified the budgetary policies prior to the recession is never repeated again.

NOTE:  2001 and 2002 structural deficit estimates come from the Spring 2010 EU Commission estimates as they were not available in the current estimate. 

5 responses to “The Fiscal Treaty Files: Cleaning Up the Debate”

  1. Rita Cahill Avatar
    Rita Cahill

    thanks, micael, we need to call on global news from all over, to catch these villians and for the irish people to tell what is happening here in Ireland” including Our Human Rigts of the Constitutional Law” We Need to Make these Criminals Responsible for This Crisis including the Corruot presiden Rigged Vote of Ireland, The Bastard surely played us With RTE Propaganda Regime and the Government and make them accountable for Treason, And Corruption, USA Have Stepped over the line ” And The Irish FG /LB government, this is a democracy of freedom of speech” get a court Judge order to stop these Villian Now, As they Have Loaded military FBI Forces In Shannon Co Limerick, Over 600,0000 and the China ma loaded of cranes in Dublin Dockland Ferry,Rita

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  2. Ciaran Avatar

    With the best of the world, unsubstantiated assertions underpin a lot of what masquerades under Mr. Collins’s byline as ‘Analysis’ or ‘Comment’ in the Times. He likes to reiterate the usual myths about wild public spending in this country, with anyone begging to differ being labelled ‘extremist’ or ‘populist’. Expecting him to display knowledge of basic macroeconomics (particularly if it interferes with his narrative) is an exercise in futility.

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  3. Ciaran Avatar

    Careless edit on my part – apologies.
    The first sentence should start ‘With the best will in the world…’.

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  4. Pidge Avatar

    Collins is, as ever, rubbish. That said, it’s a bit of leap to say that past Irish fiscal policy would be “vindicated” under the fiscal compact.
    It would be allowed, sure, but hardly vindicated. Adultery being legal is not a state “vindication”.

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  5. Plumber Edison NJ Avatar

    Collins were not rubbish I think.

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